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Jon Miller <atsf@...>
Byron,
What ever happen to that tank car frame? Jon Miller AT&SF For me time has stopped in 1941 Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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byronrose@...
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:08:17 -0800 "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> writes:
Byron, Jon, you really know how to hurt a guy. To answer your question though, it's in a box right next to the started patterns for the Pennsy X-23. BSR ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
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Richard Hendrickson
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:08:17 -0800 "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> writes:Well, Byron, we assume you know what the road to hell is paved with.Byron, Richard H. Hendrickson Ashland, Oregon 97520
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Jon Miller <atsf@...>
Richard,
Another tank question, P2K 10K UTLX. It's date is '47 which I will back date to '37. Anyway, the prototype cars were delivered with ARA cast steel trucks withspring planks and would certainly have retained those trucks through 1941 (in fact, probably until the cars were retired). The closest HO scale truck is the Accurail "Bettendorf" truck.< Is this a generic statement for all the P2K 10K cars. Good thing I bought a mess of those Accurail trucks on ebay<G>. it's likely that in 1941 most of the DX cars still had KC brakes<Would this statement apply to all or do we need to go on a owner by owner basis. Jon Miller AT&SF For me time has stopped in 1941 Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Jeff Aley <jaley@...>
--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@o...>
wrote: startedOn Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:08:17 -0800 "Jon Miller" <atsf@i...> writes:Byron, What the heck is going on around here? First we get Byron's messagespatterns for the Pennsy X-23.Well, Byron, we assume you know what the road to hell is paved with. re: Train Shed Cyclopedias that are not merely polite, but actually nice; now we have Richard being an RPA! Have their email accounts somehow become crossed??? :-) -Jeff
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Richard Hendrickson
Richard,Here you're in the realm of speculation. UTLX bought no 10K AC&F Type 21s new; its cars of this type were acquired second-hand, and the UTLX entries in the ORER are so sketchy that it's impossible to say when they were acquired with any certainty. A lot of them came in the early 1930s as various private owners (e.g., Skelly Oil) decided to unload their tank car fleets and lease the cars back from UTL, but some came to the UTLX fleet as late as the 1960s, when the Sinclair fleet went to UTL. I'm sure UTL owned some 10K AC&F Type 21s by the late 1930s but I can only guess at what their numbers may have been. Anyway, the prototype cars were delivered with ARA cast steel trucks withspring planks and would certainly have retained those trucks through 1941 Is this a generic statement for all the P2K 10K cars. Good thing INo. Some 10K AC&F Type 21s got cast steel trucks of various types, but many were delivered with arch bar trucks and, in general, tank car owners delayed replacing them until the mid-'41 deadline was almost upon them. And when they finally did, a variety of cast steel trucks were applied, though many were of the type represented by the Accurail truck. So it's difficult to generalize. Generally true, though the major leasing companies like UTL were moreit's likely that in 1941 most of the DX cars still had KC brakes<Would this statement apply to all or do we need to go on a owner by likely to make the conversion to ABs than private owners. Still, I'd say that very few '20s vintage tank cars had been retrofitted with AB brakes by 1941. Richard H. Hendrickson Ashland, Oregon 97520
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Richard Hendrickson
--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@o...>Jeff, does Byron deserve it or what? Anyway, I figure one of the reasons we started this list is so we could could indulge in some occasional (and good humored) off-topic flaming without being banished to Outer Mongolia by brother Hosker. Richard H. Hendrickson Ashland, Oregon 97520
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