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Tichy 4028 USRA steel rebuilt box car

golden1014
 

The Tichy model is technically incorrect.  The car pictured is a former rebuilt RI or CNW car.  Check the spacer panel in the USRA ends.  The car pictures is taller and has been modified.

John Golden
Clark Propst
 

Erice asked: “Did the Fort Dodge cars come from the P&LE/PMcK&Y?”
 
No they’re xRI, so the Tichy kit is wrong. Need Chad Boas’ kit. 
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa
Benjamin Scanlon
 

From what I understand many of these had Viking roofs, at least those with a C&NW / CMO origin , if which the RI ended up leasing 800. 


Also I don’t know that the Tichy car end is right for the particular one on these rebuilds with its blank panel?
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Ben Scanlon
Tottenham, England
Tim O'Connor
 


I remember Richard Hendrickson saying that the Accurail Bettendorf truck also is a 70 ton truck
due to the wheelbase, I think. When I built my Sunshine R-70-2 PFE reefer I remember he included
a cast resin spring so you could modify the Accurail truck to have a 3rd spring.


On 1/2/2023 2:08 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:

The Accurail truck is a nice truck, however. the wheels are spaced a little further apart than the Kadee and Tahoe..  I discovered this when building some 36 ft stock cars.  The Acurail did not look right.

Now if someone would just produce the Santa Fe version of the Andrews truck I will finally be the complete man.  I have been beating this drum for years.

Bill Pardie


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Tim O'Connor
 


a couple more photos (both with SRE roofs)

On 1/2/2023 4:10 PM, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:

My suspicion was always that the FtDDM&S rebuilt USRA boxcars were either RI or C&NW, or both.

 

I have accumulated several photos of them from a variety of sources.   This snip comes from FtDDM&S 15040 and the new sides are supported by triangular gussets.  The RI purchased/leased some ex-C&NW rebuilds in the 50’s that had triangular gussets.



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

fddm&s_15008 40ft_SD_box USRA rebuild exRI_ fresh-paint 11-1957.JimSands.jpg

ri_134710 40ft_SD_box USRA rebuild.JimSands.jpg

Dennis Storzek
 

Tim,
Show us a pic of the P&LE cars so people can see the different corner construction, please.

Dennis Storzek
WILLIAM PARDIE
 



On Jan 2, 2023, at 8:59 AM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

The Accurail Andrews trucks are very nice, but reflect a 70-ton version. The wheelbase is slightly longer.
 
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I initially used Accurai Andrews trucks under these cars but the longer wheelbase just did not look right.  I should have taken a photo for comparison.

Bill Pardie
Ken Adams
 

Dennis


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Ken Adams
Covid Variants may come and go but I choose to still live mostly in splendid Shelter In Place solitude
Location: About half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io
Dan Smith
 

Ken,

Thanks for posting the image.

One thing I would like to improve on my model is the lower door track.

Can anyone direct me to an image that shows the flanges and gussets in detail.
That is one detail I have newer been satisfied with.

Thanks for any help.

Happy New Year,
Dan Smith
Tony Thompson
 

Bill Pardie wrote:

I initially used Accurai Andrews trucks under these cars but the longer wheelbase just did not look right. I should have taken a photo for comparison.
Some early SP stock cars did have Andrews trucks, but they were the early L-section trucks with the long bottom strap, as produced by Kadee. But the majority, including those shown in the photo, were built with, and retained, Vulcan trucks. A small minority of cars had T-section trucks.

Tony Thompson
tony@...
WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Ken, I appreciate you sending the photos of the P&LE rebuilt car. Regretfully I still do not see the protector for the brake valve;

Bill Pardie

On Jan 3, 2023, at 1:40 PM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

Bill Pardie wrote:

I initially used Accurai Andrews trucks under these cars but the longer wheelbase just did not look right. I should have taken a photo for comparison.
Some early SP stock cars did have Andrews trucks, but they were the early L-section trucks with the long bottom strap, as produced by Kadee. But the majority, including those shown in the photo, were built with, and retained, Vulcan trucks. A small minority of cars had T-section trucks.

Tony Thompson
tony@...
Ken Adams
 

Bill Pardie,

It is on the side with the triple valves and not applied when newly rebuilt.   

This photo shows one version just behind the door. I modeled mine from a picture of the Richard Hendricksen model in his July 1993 RMJ article on the P&LE cars before I had this picture.


I don't have the specific reference but remember reading about the protective cover plates applied to some boxcars when AB brakes were installed in material on the NYC Historical Society website.
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Ken Adams
Covid Variants may come and go but I choose to still live mostly in splendid Shelter In Place solitude
Location: About half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io
WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Thanks Ken:

I will also dig out the Hendrickson article.

Bill Pardie



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-------- Original message --------
From: Ken Adams <smadanek44g@...>
Date: 1/4/23 8:42 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy 4028 USRA steel rebuilt box car

Bill Pardie,

It is on the side with the triple valves and not applied when newly rebuilt.   

This photo shows one version just behind the door. I modeled mine from a picture of the Richard Hendricksen model in his July 1993 RMJ article on the P&LE cars before I had this picture.


I don't have the specific reference but remember reading about the protective cover plates applied to some boxcars when AB brakes were installed in material on the NYC Historical Society website.
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Ken Adams
Covid Variants may come and go but I choose to still live mostly in splendid Shelter In Place solitude
Location: About half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io

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