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TIDX 1648 GATC tank car

Andy Carlson
 

With a reweigh of 5-59 this barely fits in our era of preference. My notes has this as a Tidewater tank car, if so I suppose it would be a west coast Associated Oil Co. Flying A portion of the merger. A break from the more common black tank cars. My friend, Brent MacGregor, has the original Kodachrome and would be happy to provide high quality digital prints for this car and thousands of others.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

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Tony Thompson
 

I wrote:

Nope, not Associated but the midwestern subsidiary. They used TIDX for years. See my blog post on Tidewater Associated.

     Sorry, forgot to include the link to the blog post on the company history, including the Tidewater Midcontinent Division that used TIDX. Here it is:


Tony Thompson



David
 

Not GATC, but an example of the uncommon AC&F Type 26 (the car to the right may be another one).

David Thompson

Tony Thompson
 

Nope, not Associated but the midwestern subsidiary. They used TIDX for years. See my blog post on Tidewater Associated.
Tony Thompson 


On Jun 29, 2020, at 5:28 PM, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:


With a reweigh of 5-59 this barely fits in our era of preference. My notes has this as a Tidewater tank car, if so I suppose it would be a west coast Associated Oil Co. Flying A portion of the merger. A break from the more common black tank cars. My friend, Brent MacGregor, has the original Kodachrome and would be happy to provide high quality digital prints for this car and thousands of others.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

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Tim O'Connor
 


My notes say ACF Type 25, but it's close enough I guess. :-)


On 6/29/2020 9:18 PM, David via groups.io wrote:
Not GATC, but an example of the uncommon AC&F Type 26 (the car to the right may be another one).

David Thompson


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

David
 

From what I can tell, the Type 25 had a trapezoidal end sill casting somewhat reminiscent of the old Type 11/17 end sill shape. The Type 26 went without any end sill at all.

David Thompson

Dave Nelson
 

David, what's the spotting feature you noticed?

Dave Nelson

-----Original Message-----
Not GATC, but an example of the uncommon AC&F Type 26 (the car to the
right may be another one).

David Thompson

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David
 

David, what's the spotting feature you noticed?
The diameter and length of the tank for its nominal capacity, and the tank saddle construction are characteristic of mid-20s AC&F practice. The lack of side sills makes it a 25 or 26. The photo in question is hard to make a definitive statement on, but 26 was by far the less rare variety.

David Thompson

David
 

I looked through the AC&F lot list, and these were the orders specifically labeled as Type 25, 25A, or 26.

Type 25
lot 9892    5  AC&F Co. 10/21/24  10000g
lot 10008  15  Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey 3/21/25 10000g

Type 25A
lot 43   1  Western Paper Makers Chemical Co. 7/30/25  8000g
lot 54   5  Rossville Co. 8/25/25
lot 77  11  Ulen & Co. (AC&F Export Co.) 9/24/25  6000g

Type 26
lot  84 125  Tidal Refining Co. 10/3/25  8000g
lot 109   1  American Extract Co. 11/30/25  8600g
lot 120  15  Pan American Petroleum Co. 12/10/25  (50T)
lot 159   2  Manctels Herold Co. 1/8/26  8000g
lot 190  12  Pan American Petroleum Co. 2/5/26  10000g
lot 223   5  Spencer Kellogg & Sons 3/30/26  6000g
lot 280   5  Rossville Co. 7/2/26
lot 283   4  Dow Chemical Co. 7/9/26  10000g
lot 292   5  Cities Service Tank Line Co. 7/28/26  8000g
lot 322   2  Incandescent Lamp Dept. of General Electric Co. 9/11/26  8000g
lot 419 200  Tidal Refining Co. 1/18/27  8000g
lot 433   4  Dow Chemical Co. 2/8/27  10000g
lot 486   6  Roxana Petroleum Corp. 4/29/27  8000g
lot 487   6  Roxana Petroleum Corp. 4/29/27  10000g
lot 525 100  Cities Service Tank Line 8/15/27  8000g
lot 571  15  Chicago Tank Car 11/30/27  8000g

David Thompson

David