Viking roofs
Tony Thompson
I was thinking through some planned car projects, and remembered (or thought I did) that sometime back there was developed here a list of all the box cars that got the “corrugated” Viking roofs. But I can’t find it. So I have two questions: is my memory correct? And if so, can anyone suggest a key word to search on? Any help appreciated.
Tony Thompson tony@... |
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Allan Smith <smithal9@...>
Ed Mines Mainline Modeler Nov 1986 Al Smith Sonora CA
On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 04:04:48 PM PST, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
I was thinking through some planned car projects, and remembered (or thought I did) that sometime back there was developed here a list of all the box cars that got the “corrugated” Viking roofs. But I can’t find it. So I have two questions: is my memory correct? And if so, can anyone suggest a key word to search on? Any help appreciated. Tony Thompson |
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Tony Thompson
I’m somewhat agog that my memory reaches back 35 years . . . but thanks much, Al. Just what I needed. |
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Figures. That's one of about 3 issues of Mainline Modeler I do not have. :-D I don't recall any compilation of all of the cars with the Viking 'corrugated' roof. Ed Hawkins did specify the type of roof in several of his roster documents, but I don't know if anyone pulled out all of the Viking instances he shows into a single list. On 1/10/2023 4:40 PM, Allan Smith wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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I bought the C&O Historical Society DVD of all the Mainline Modelers.
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
On 1/10/2023 4:40 PM, Allan Smith wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
If you are missing some, or a lot, of MM issues, the C&O Historical Society sells a CD with all of them. Doesn’t handle foldouts well, but it has the material.
Jim van Gaasbeek Irvine, CA
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Allan Smith <smithal9@...>
Two more cars to add to the list. NS 25500-25752, NW 47500-47999. Al Smith
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 04:41:14 AM PST, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Figures. That's one of about 3 issues of Mainline Modeler I do not have. :-D I don't recall any compilation of all of the cars with the Viking 'corrugated' roof. Ed Hawkins did specify the type of roof in several of his roster documents, but I don't know if anyone pulled out all of the Viking instances he shows into a single list. On 1/10/2023 4:40 PM, Allan Smith wrote: Ed Mines Mainline Modeler Nov 1986
Al Smith Sonora CA
On Monday,
January 9, 2023 at 04:04:48 PM PST, Tony Thompson
<tony@...> wrote:
I
was thinking through some planned car projects, and
remembered (or thought I did) that sometime back there
was developed here a list of all the box cars that got
the “corrugated” Viking roofs. But I can’t find it. So I
have two questions: is my memory correct? And if so, can
anyone suggest a key word to search on? Any help
appreciated.
Tony
Thompson
-- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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ed_mines
I don't recall ever seeing a list. |
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Tony Thompson
Ed Mines wrote:
I don't recall ever seeing a list. I am attaching the roster from Ed Mines’ article in the November 1986 _Mainline Modeler_ issue. This is certainly “a list” but clearly was never proof-read by anyone who knew anything about the subject. Years ago, I made the marks that you see here, but I don’t claim the remainder is without fault. Still, there is a lot of info here. Comments invited. Tony Thompson |
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ed_mines
I have no recollection of making up that list or even seeing it. |
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Tony
Your list is missing the C&EI cars -- "War Bonds" -- series 64000-64499 Also these CMO series 20000-21398 blt 1941 ACF CMO series 21400-22414 blt 1942 GATC CNW series 71000-71998 blt 1941 PS CNW series 72000-72998 blt 1941-1942 ACF CNW series 73000-74398 blt 1942 ACF CNW series 76900-77414 blt 1942 PS And these USRA DS rebuilds CMO series 37100-37498 rbt 1941-1942 HUDSON SHOPS On 1/11/2023 3:58 PM, Tony Thompson wrote: Ed Mines wrote: --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Tony Thompson
Not my list, it’s Ed Mines list from the Mainline Modeler article. Tony |
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The C&O Historical Society Mainline Modeler compilation is also available as a download, if your computer, like mine, no longer has a CD/DVD drive.
Dave Smith |
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David
Here's a start. It's not complete; I need to track down Erie's double-door cars and the NKP 87000 series.
David Thompson Viking Corrugated roof 40'ft sd 500 C&EI 64000-64499 GATC 1/37 AAR 1937 500 C&O 4000-4499 GATC 10-11/36 AAR 1937 500 C&O 5000-5499 GATC 7-8/37 AAR 1937 25 CMO 20000~20048e ACF 10/41 AAR 1937 Modified 175 CMO 20050~20398e ACF /41 AAR 1937 Modified 500 CMO 20400~21398e ACF 10/41 AAR 1937 Modified 508 CMO 21400~22414e GATC 4/42 AAR 1937 Modified 200 CMO 37100~37498e 1941-42 USRA ds rebuild, 10'0" ih 250 C&NW 65000~65498e 1937 USRA ds rebuild, 10'0" ih 100 C&NW 65500~65698e 1940 USRA ds rebuild, 10'0" ih 860 C&NW 65700~67418e 1940-42 USRA ds rebuild, 10'0" ih 500 C&NW 71000~71998e P-S 11/41 AAR 1937 Modified 500 C&NW 72000~72998e ACF 1/42 AAR 1937 Modified 700 C&NW 73000~74398e ACF 5/42 AAR 1937 Modified 258 C&NW 76900~77414e P-S 5/42 AAR 1937 Modified 417 C&NW 77416~78248e P-S 12/43-1/44 War Emergency s/s 55 Erie 6600-6654 Grv 6-8/35 AAR class BM 80 Erie 6655-6734 Grv 6/37 AAR class BM 500 Erie 76500-76999 ACF 9/34 ARA 1932 500 Erie 78400-78499 ACF 6/36 AAR 1937 500 Erie 78500-78999 ACF 1/40 AAR 1937 200 Erie 79000-79199 P-S 2-3/40 AAR 1937 500 NKP 15000-15499 GATC 8-10/36 AAR 1937 500 NKP 15500-15999 GATC 9/37 AAR 1937 1 NPF 57 ACF 6/37 AAR 1937; Naval Powder Factory, Indian Head,MD 2 NPF 58,59 ACF 1/40 AAR 1937; Naval Powder Factory, Indian Head,MD 8 NNY 623-630 ACF 5/40 AAR 1937; Norfolk Navy Yard 1 NNY (none) ACF 5/40 AAR 1937; Norfolk Navy Yard 500 NS 25000-25499 P-S 11/35-1/36 ARA 1932; railroad class XM2 253 NS 25500-25752 Magor 12/41 AAR 1937; railroad class XM3; to XM6 28000-28236 2 USNAD 12,13 ACF 1/40 AAR 1937; US Naval Depot, Ft. Mifflin 40'ft dd 150 C&O 6250-6499 P-S 1/36 10'4" ih 50 C&O 6500-6549 ACF 6/34 10'0" ih; railroad class AF5-2 500 Erie 98200-98699 ACF 6/34 300 Erie 96700-96999 8/36 25 NS 26000-26024 Mag 4/37 10'3" ih; railroad class XAR1/XM4 400 PM 93000-93399 Ral 10/36 10'4" ih 150 W&LE 30000-30149 1934-36 steel rebuild from s/s box 10 WM 30000-30009 Grv 9/36 10'4" ih 50ft'sd 300 C&NW 105000~105598e MtV 5/40 50ft'dd 100 C&O 6700-6799 MtV 8/34 10'0" ih; railroad class AF5-1 100 C&O 6800-6899 Grv 10/40 10'0" ih 100 PM 71250-71349 Ral 10/36 10'0" ih 100 PM 72000-72099 Grv 12/40 10'0" ih 100 PM 72100-72199 Grv 9/41 10'0" ih |
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Don Burn
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MEC 5000 to 6003 which were 1923 A.R.A. All Steel Boxcars with early Viking roofs. Don Burn -----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of David via groups.io Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 7:10 PM To: RealSTMFC@groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Viking roofs Here's a start. It's not complete; I need to track down Erie's double-door cars and the NKP 87000 series. David Thompson Viking Corrugated roof 40'ft sd 500 C&EI 64000-64499 GATC 1/37 AAR 1937 500 C&O 4000-4499 GATC 10-11/36 AAR 1937 500 C&O 5000-5499 GATC 7-8/37 AAR 1937 25 CMO 20000~20048e ACF 10/41 AAR 1937 Modified 175 CMO 20050~20398e ACF /41 AAR 1937 Modified 500 CMO 20400~21398e ACF 10/41 AAR 1937 Modified 508 CMO 21400~22414e GATC 4/42 AAR 1937 Modified 200 CMO 37100~37498e 1941-42 USRA ds rebuild, 10'0" ih 250 C&NW 65000~65498e 1937 USRA ds rebuild, 10'0" ih 100 C&NW 65500~65698e 1940 USRA ds rebuild, 10'0" ih 860 C&NW 65700~67418e 1940-42 USRA ds rebuild, 10'0" ih 500 C&NW 71000~71998e P-S 11/41 AAR 1937 Modified 500 C&NW 72000~72998e ACF 1/42 AAR 1937 Modified 700 C&NW 73000~74398e ACF 5/42 AAR 1937 Modified 258 C&NW 76900~77414e P-S 5/42 AAR 1937 Modified 417 C&NW 77416~78248e P-S 12/43-1/44 War Emergency s/s 55 Erie 6600-6654 Grv 6-8/35 AAR class BM 80 Erie 6655-6734 Grv 6/37 AAR class BM 500 Erie 76500-76999 ACF 9/34 ARA 1932 500 Erie 78400-78499 ACF 6/36 AAR 1937 500 Erie 78500-78999 ACF 1/40 AAR 1937 200 Erie 79000-79199 P-S 2-3/40 AAR 1937 500 NKP 15000-15499 GATC 8-10/36 AAR 1937 500 NKP 15500-15999 GATC 9/37 AAR 1937 1 NPF 57 ACF 6/37 AAR 1937; Naval Powder Factory, Indian Head,MD 2 NPF 58,59 ACF 1/40 AAR 1937; Naval Powder Factory, Indian Head,MD 8 NNY 623-630 ACF 5/40 AAR 1937; Norfolk Navy Yard 1 NNY (none) ACF 5/40 AAR 1937; Norfolk Navy Yard 500 NS 25000-25499 P-S 11/35-1/36 ARA 1932; railroad class XM2 253 NS 25500-25752 Magor 12/41 AAR 1937; railroad class XM3; to XM6 28000-28236 2 USNAD 12,13 ACF 1/40 AAR 1937; US Naval Depot, Ft. Mifflin 40'ft dd 150 C&O 6250-6499 P-S 1/36 10'4" ih 50 C&O 6500-6549 ACF 6/34 10'0" ih; railroad class AF5-2 500 Erie 98200-98699 ACF 6/34 300 Erie 96700-96999 8/36 25 NS 26000-26024 Mag 4/37 10'3" ih; railroad class XAR1/XM4 400 PM 93000-93399 Ral 10/36 10'4" ih 150 W&LE 30000-30149 1934-36 steel rebuild from s/s box 10 WM 30000-30009 Grv 9/36 10'4" ih 50ft'sd 300 C&NW 105000~105598e MtV 5/40 50ft'dd 100 C&O 6700-6799 MtV 8/34 10'0" ih; railroad class AF5-1 100 C&O 6800-6899 Grv 10/40 10'0" ih 100 PM 71250-71349 Ral 10/36 10'0" ih 100 PM 72000-72099 Grv 12/40 10'0" ih 100 PM 72100-72199 Grv 9/41 10'0" ih |
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Dave Smith/anyone ...
I have a USB CD/DVD drive. Works fine for my laptop on the rare occasions I need it. Also works on a desktop. Does not seem to be platform specific (drivers available for either MacOS or Windows). Under $40. - Jim in the PNW |
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if your computer, like mine, no longer has a CD/DVD drive. -- Ted Larson trainweb.org/mhrr/ -------- NASG.org -------- https://www.nasg.org/Clubs/RegionsMinnesota.php GN in 1965 |
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James Brewer
David,
Here is a link to NWHS archives based on a search of "Viking." It appears several classes of N&W boxcars had Viking roofs; also note the first entry provides the numbers for the NKP cars. https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Viking Jim |
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model of same On 1/12/2023 7:49 PM, Don Burn wrote: Add to the list MEC 5000 to 6003 which were 1923 A.R.A. All Steel Boxcars with early Viking roofs. Don Burn --
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I am researching the C&O rebuilt single door 12392-12999, 13000-13135 & double door box cars 12000-12168,13558-13828. These cars were built with 2 different roofs depending on the series. Some were Murphy Radial while others are Viking roofs. They were originally built for the Hocking Valley in 1924-1925. I have a number of photos of these cars that show either radial or flat roofs, but none showing the the actual Viking roof from above. What I am wondering is when did the Viking corrugated roofs come out? Would these have been an earlier Viking roof as shown in these pages from the 1925 Car Builder Cyclopedia? |
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